[Daanz-dip] This has happened before folks

Shane Cubis shane at cubisia.com
Sat Sep 16 10:46:21 EST 2006


Fuck it, Greg. Hold GongCon anyway. I'm still keen, Brett and my mate Adam 
from work will come and so will lots of other people who don't give a shit 
about a cup made of metal.

DAANZ tournaments have largely been a joke for the past year or two anyway - 
and replacing serious adult players with "interested for three turns or 
until the PlayStation 2 is discovered" isn't fixing anything.

Count me out of any official DAANZ tournaments for the time being. Life's 
too short for the sort of ridiculous real-life rules-lawyering, 
dummy-spitting and "will he or won't he" quitting Sean's going on with.

I recommend everyone secede from the organisation. Then Sean can run his own 
tournaments, win everything and have a wonderful time.

Huzzah!
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Greg Evans" <greg at cyberelectric.net.au>
To: "DAANZ-dip Email Discussion Group for Diplomacy in Australia & 
NewZealand" <daanz-dip at daanz.org.au>
Sent: Friday, September 15, 2006 11:06 PM
Subject: Re: [Daanz-dip] This has happened before folks


>> If Sean has disappeared from the hobby, that is a loss in my opinion.
>
> Sean has not disappeared form the hobby.  I'd say he has stood down as
> secretary so as to raise the dispute against the executive without
> generating a conflict of interest - which in my humble opinion was the 
> right
> thing to do if he was insistant on raising the dispute (though I still 
> wish
> he didnt !).
>
> I respect Sean for being passionate about diplomacy and for his loyalty to
> his kids.  He has been to EVERY tournament this year and I dont expect 
> that
> he will stop now.  He's in with an excellent chance of winning the 
> Bismark,
> so (as appalled as he is on the age restriction issue) I'd even expect him
> to show up at an affiliated GongCon if it were to go ahead.  He is one of
> the players who IS highly motivated by the Bismark and will travel long
> distances to attend a tournament based purely on its affiliation.
>
> The amount of effort he has put into the hobby has never been questioned.
> Whether that effort has been appreciated or misdirected, however, is
> debatable.  He has good intentions and sincerely believes he is doing the
> right thing. However, his methods and attitude toward people that dont 
> share
> his 'vision' is intolerant at best - intolerable at worst.  He rubs a LOT 
> of
> people (including this black duck) the wrong way.  I sincerely hope that 
> in
> future he can find a more constructive, open minded and tolerant way to
> direct his energies in the hobby for the sake of everyone involved. 
> Cooling
> off and withdrawing the dispute would be a good start....but I wont be
> holding my breath.
>
> Live and let live I say.  If we are doing things right, we should not be
> losing ANYBODY from the hobby.
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