[Daanz-dip] Fwd: [Daanz-exec] Notice of Dispute - Re:Gong ConAffilliation

[STEPHENSON, Robert]

I agree with Rob
Rob

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	Oh my...have we all lost our minds.  This whole issue is
patently ridiculous.
	 
	And, the solution is obvious...
	 
	The BC should be scrapped.  As it stands currently it is FAR FAR
more detrimental to the hobby than beneficial.  And with respect to
those who conceived of and implemented the trophy, I'm sure that for a
certain era it was good and appropriate, but now it is just a source of
contention.  (And has been since around the time of the BC BC fiasco,
not that I'm attributing any wrong, or wrong motive, to the individuals
involved in that -or this - event, it was and still is the nature of the
competitive beast.) 
	 
	I realise the BC may encourage some to attend tournaments, but I
believe it is only a minority.  And to have it and its related issues
disrupt and divide the hobby so extremely, is obviously antithetical to
the original reason for its existence. 
	 
	Let's all get off our high horses and make a decision to improve
the atmosphere of the hobby.
	 
	Cheers
	hadz
	
	 
	On 15/09/06, William J Brown <billious at rabbit.com.au> wrote: 

		As a long time hobby participant and member of the DAANZ
and before that the DAA, I take offence that Mr Colman thinks his views
are in any way connected to mine, and that he thinks he can speak for
anyone other than himself. 
		
		Bill Brown
		---------- Original Message
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		From: "Will Black" <wjcblack at gmail.com>
		Reply-To: DAANZ-dip Email Discussion Group for Diplomacy
in Australia & NewZealand < daanz-dip at daanz.org.au>
		Date:  Fri, 15 Sep 2006 17:15:21 +1200
		
		>A formal Dispute has been made against the DAANZ
Affiliation for Gong Con
		>2006.
		>
		>The Affilation of the tournament is suspended until the
dispute is resolved.
		>
		>Thanks
		>
		>Will Black
		>President of DAANZ
		>
		>---------- Forwarded message ----------
		>From: Sean Colman < sean at seropeco.com.au>
		>Date: Sep 15, 2006 4:40 PM
		>Subject: [Daanz-exec] Notice of Dispute - Re:Gong Con
Affilliation
		>To: DAANZ-Exec List < daanz-exec at daanz.org.au
<mailto:daanz-exec at daanz.org.au> >
		>Cc: president at daanz.org.au,
returningofficer at daanz.org.au
		>
		> I believe I hold the same views as a large portion of
the DAANZ Membership. 
		>Your decision to affilliate a tournament for Bismark
Cup & Masterpoints that
		>clearly has an agenda to exclude certain members of the
DAANZ from
		>competing, and thus affecting their ability to enhance
their position in the 
		>Bismark Cup whilst other members are still able to
compete is appalling. I
		>also note your personal apathy over the recent weeks
and months towards the
		>guidance of the DAANZ. You are not elected to the
committee to make 
		>decisions that a majority of the Association favour,
but decisions that are
		>consistant with the Constitution, and takes into
account all members of the
		>association, and are consistant at law.
		> 
		>I hereby put the Association on notice of this dispute
and insist that the
		>committee's decision be suspended until this dispute
has been resolved as
		>this is a dispute with the association and not just
with a member. 
		>
		>I also note there may be complaints lodged with the
Anti-Discrimination
		>Board of New South Wales & The Equal Opportunity
Commission Victoria in
		>relation to this matter. I further reserve my rights to
seek costs against 
		>the DAANZ if this is not resolved and further recourse
at law is required.
		>
		>Sean Colman
		>
		>I copy for your reference
		>*DISPUTES AND MEDIATION*
		>
		>   1. The grievance procedure set out in this rule
applies to disputes 
		>   under the Rules between
		>   (a) a member and another member; or
		>   (b) a member and the Association.
		>   2. The parties to the dispute must meet and discuss
the matter in
		>   dispute, and, if possible, resolve the dispute
within 14 days after the 
		>   dispute comes to the attention of all of the
parties.
		>   3. If the parties are unable to resolve the dispute
at the meeting, or
		>   if a party fails to attend that meeting, then the
parties must, within 10 
		>   days, hold a meeting in the presence of a mediator.
		>   4. The mediator must be
		>   (a) a person chosen by agreement between the
parties; or
		>   (b) in the absence of agreement-
		>      1. in the case of a dispute between a member and
another member, 
		>      a person appointed by the committee of the
Association; or
		>      2. in the case of a dispute between a member and
the
		>      Association, a person who is a mediator appointed
or employed by
		>the Dispute 
		>      Settlement Centre of Victoria (Department of
Justice).
		>   5. A member of the Association can be a mediator.
		>   6. The mediator cannot be a member who is a party to
the dispute.
		>   7. The parties to the dispute must, in good faith,
attempt to settle 
		>   the dispute by mediation.
		>   8. The mediator, in conducting the mediation, must
		>   (a) give the parties to the mediation process every
opportunity to be
		>   heard; and
		>   (b) allow due consideration by all parties of any
written statement 
		>   submitted by any party; and
		>   (c) ensure that natural justice is accorded to the
parties to the
		>   dispute throughout the mediation process.
		>   9. The mediator must not determine the dispute. 
		>   10. If the mediation process does not result in the
dispute being
		>   resolved, the parties may seek to resolve the
dispute in accordance with the
		>   Act or otherwise at law.
		>
		>
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